【加藤綾子さん連載】「最後に人間に残された”感性”こそ 大切に磨かなければならない」
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多くの個を束ね、組織を成功に導いている一流のトップには、どんな思考があるか？ 会社のマネジメントにも役立つ“ヒント”を、カトパンことフリーアナウンサーの加藤綾子さんがそっと探り、お届けする。
【加藤綾子 一流思考のヒント】
第25回 コメダホールディングス 代表取締役社長 臼井興胤さん［前編］
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※最後に加藤綾子さんのスペシャルフォトギャラリー付き！
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加藤綾子 Ayako Kato
1985年生まれ。2008年フジテレビ入社、看板アナウンサーとして活躍。’16年、フリーアナウンサーとなり女優業もこなす。現在は報道番組『Live News it!』（CX）のメインキャスターを務めるほか、『ホンマでっか!? TV』（CX）にレギュラー出演中。著書に『会話は、とぎれていい―愛される48のヒント』（文響社刊）。
臼井興胤 Okitane Usui
1958年生まれ。防衛大学を中退、一橋大学商学部卒業後、三和銀行（現三菱UFJ銀行）入行。’93年にセガに転職し取締役となり、以後ベンチャーキャピタル、ナイキジャパン営業リテール統括本部長、日本マクドナルドCOO（最高執行責任者）、セガに戻り代表取締役社長、グルーポン社東アジア統括副社長を経て、2013年7月から現職。
「AIに取って代わられないサービスに対する姿勢など 最後に人間に残された『感性』こそ 大切に磨かなければならないものです」
（臼井興胤さん）
率先垂範で、流れをつくり、1＋1＝2以上の結果を出す
加藤 以前にコメダ珈琲店の創業の地でもある名古屋に遊びに行ったとき、地元の友人とお店に行って、トーストとゆで玉子が無料で付いてくる自慢のモーニングを食べたことがあります。
臼井 コンビニだと一杯のコーヒーが100円ちょっとで売っていますが、コメダのブレンドは430円します。これは湯煎をした有田焼のカップに入れて、いつものスタッフが笑顔で運んできて、山小屋風の造りによって心が穏やかになる空間があって、そんな中でコーヒーを飲む体験に430円を払っていただいている。そういう意味ではコメダは飲食業ではありますけど店は舞台装置みたいなもので、サービスに対する感性は人間に最後に残された大切に磨くべきものだと思っています。知識や頭の良さはどんどんAIに取って代わられますよね。
加藤 本当にそうですね。ちなみに臼井さんは新卒で三和銀行（現三菱ＵＦＪ銀行）に入り、セガ、ナイキ、日本マクドナルドなどで辣腕を振るってきた経営のスペシャリストですが、どの企業でもリーダーシップを発揮する上で、気をつけてきた点はありますか？
臼井 リーダーシップっていろいろなパターンがあると思いますけど、僕の場合は間違いなく率先垂範です。だから、コメダの社長になってから週に一度は名古屋の本社の1階にある店に立ってコーヒーを淹れています。喫茶店だからそれが当たり前だと思ってやってますけど、その上でたくさんの人が何かの方向に向かって動いていく「流れをつくる」というか、そこを一生懸命考えて準備をして、１＋１＝２以上の結果を出していくということかな。単純に２のままじゃリーダーシップを発揮していることにならないですよね。
加藤 臼井さんがつくった流れを、部下の方々にはどのように浸透させていますか？
臼井 コメダに来て6年、あるいはこの10数年の間に僕のマネジメントスタイルも随分変わってきたと思っていて、どうしても昭和のど真ん中で生きてきた人間ですから、元々は部下にはかなり厳しい。昔の職場が一緒だった人たちからよく言われるのは「臼井さん、よくまだ社長をやってられますね。今それをやったらアウトでしょ」と。要するに、最近はめっきり優しくなりました（笑）。
加藤 コメダの社長になられてから、何かが臼井さんを変えたんでしょうか？（笑）
臼井 やっぱり週に一度お店でお客様にきちっと頭を下げて「ありがとうございます」と言っている経験は大きいですよ。人間はどこまでいっても動物なので、頭だけでなくフィジカルでも考えないと、心が変わっていかない。大体「社長」なんて呼ばれ始めたらだめで、謙虚さなんてなくなっちゃいます。僕もみんなには「臼井さん」と呼んでもらってます。
